The Top 10 Reasons Why You Should Not Go To Medical School... And The Single Reason You Should
There used to be a different post here.
There used to be an entire list on why you should not go to medical school; the top 10 reasons you should not go to medical school and one reason that you should. If you want to reason the other side of the story go to this article, "The Top Ten Reasons You Should Go To Medical School And The Single Best Reason Not To."
The post talked about reasons for not going to medschool; of losing friends, spending the best years of your life as an underpaid, overworked, and sleep deprived slave, and then found the one reason — and only one — to go to medical school.
But, after a number of emails with the author and revisions that included removing parts of the posts, and an update at the bottom of the post asking for all comments to be added to the authors site, the author has had a change of heart and asked for the entire post to be removed and so we've complied with that request.
Now we are not generally in the business of trying to step on people's toes, and we try to be respectful of everyone's wishes and we certainly want to provide as much value as we can to all of the sites that we link to. However in this case it seems a little onerous (and somewhat unethical) to delete everyone's thoughtful comments along with the original post. So, we decided to just remove the post in its entirety and change the discussion slightly.
Of course what are the things we noticed was that most peoples thoughts did not agree with the basic tenets of the original post; that there are at least 10 reasons why you shouldn't go to medical school or become a physician and only one reason that you should.
In fact, while there are a couple of people that agree that medical school and becoming a physician is a challenging career path, many of the comments voice the opinion that medicine had a lot to offer in exchange for the shortcomings of the current health care system.
Here is an example:
There are very few professions that meet people from all walks of life that confide in you very personal issues and want to know your opinion just because you "are a doctor". A job where you get to be on your feet rather than stuck behind a desk all day staring at a computer or on the phone and for the most part get to have educated, intelligent, and interesting people as your co-workers. As a doctor let me assure you - none of us are starving. – Gut Girl
Of course, opinions all vary and there are any number of physicians I know that would gladly hang up their stethoscope if they could replace their income, but so would a lot of people with other jobs.
This site's only real purpose is the uncover the ways that medical schools students (and physicians) can leverage their skills, training, and degree and help them to craft a lifestyle that is both rewarding and fulfilling. If that's clinical practice while you start a business on the side, or forgoing clinical practice altogether, fine. There's a puzzle-piece that everyone needs, and it's usually NOT just doing what everyone else does.
You can read the opinions of others below. Some of them are leaning towards the combative side. Let's keep it civil.
Reader Comments (83)
Words fail at reading your "rant," but being the English-major-turned-lawyer-instead-of pre-med-student-because- I-hated-the science-classes, I shall find some words. Thanks for sharing from the inside perspective. My father, both grandfathers, aunt, and two uncles are all physicians. And seeing the generation in my family of which I am a part with 19 grandchildren shy away from the medical practice for the very reasons you articulate is disheartening. I appreciate the articulation of the brokenness of our system not just for patients but for care givers as well.
You're right about number 9
As I read this article (nodding all the while in agreement), I couldn't help but wonder how I would have reacted to it as an undergrad. Disbelief, no doubt. I am 1 year out of residency and spend an inordinate amount of time dreaming up alternate ways of making a (better) living for all of the above reasons. Your article is spot on...but you might have to be an MD to believe it.
Sigh. I have wasted my life...
As a faceless intern at a University Medical center I cannot help but find truth in the comments above. The system is broken, the higher ups propagate the supremacy, and the supposed reward when you're the attending is a 60-80 work week job. More than 3/4 of a day is spent with paperwork/social work/receptionist duties, while the rest is trying to defend yourself from lawsuits. The art of medicine has clearly departed and can only be described as the defense of self. Thank god I chose one of the NPC specialties after this horrendous tour of duty called intern year.
- Gas, Rays, Optho, Derm, Psych, Path. For clarification read the house of god.
I liked most of your comments.....although, as a pediatrics resident, despite suffering through endless hours of thankless wards rotations, NICU, PICU, etc., I still found (and find) it quite fulfilling to be a part of taking care of sick children and their families. I guess I'm relatively lucky to be in a program in an area of the U.S. where parents/families are generally polite, respectful, and non-litigious. You're absolutely right in that I have no life and probably could have spent much more of my 20's having fun, but...if you really want to do something nice for the world I say nothing beats Pediatrics. I do 100% agree with you on the self-inflicted B.S. that tends to predominate adult medicine (hence my specialty choice, I supopse).
I wanted to like this article, but I found a really hard time agreeing with any of it.
There are very few professions that meet people from all walks of life that confide in you very personal issues and want to know your opinion just because you "are a doctor". A job where you get to be on your feet rather than stuck behind a desk all day staring at a computer or on the phone and for the most part get to have educated, intelligent, and interesting people as your co-workers. As a doctor let me assure you - none of us are starving.
I am glad that you are no longer in medicine - sounds like you never learned to appreciate what you actually had.
no job is perfect-- sure i worked 100+ hours in residency, but my friends in finance or law worked equally long hours (and they started those hours right out of college). did they get paid more than me? during residency, yes. after residency, those of them who still have jobs after the economy tanked in 2008/09 make about the same as my starting salary. and while i did suffer through overnight call and sleep deprivation, those finance/law folks were also chained to their blackberries, sitting through conference calls at midnight, and rushing home from a night out to submit emergency briefs.
i'd recommend taking the author's perspective with a healthy grain of salt-- he *chooses* to focus on the negatives of practicing medicine, and has convinced himself enough of the field's failings that he'd rather write dating guides instead (which i find ironic, considering he's complaining about loss of prestige in medicine above). but like Gut Girl mentioned earlier, there are also many many perks to practicing medicine (for me, they include interesting cases, smart colleagues, grateful patients, the opportunity to travel, and a more than sufficient income to live comfortably). for those of you in the throes of residency, remembering the perks will help residency go by a lot more painlessly (it really does get better afterwards!) and you'll probably be a happier person for it too.
Each coin has two sides and a rim.May be the true facts are consistent with the rim-however wide.
Dude, residency suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks!
Depends on which specialty a person chooses. I couldn't be happier with my job; the worst years by far were the first 2 years of medical school. But if I had to do any primary care field or anything as intensive as general surgery, I would have quit medicine many years ago.
Work hard, do well on Step 1, and get yourself into a nice cushy specialty. Life will be good.
Fantastic article! I could not agree more. Medicine was a horrible choice for me and for soooo many docs who simply can't admit it to anyone else but me. There should be more writing on this topic, and I congratulate you for tackling it.
That being said, Catch-22 is the worst piece of drivel ever to be vomited upon a page. ;-)
Best wishes to you and continued succes!
There are two types of physicians in the medical field: 1) the inbreds, i.e. you come from a family of physicians and are thus connected to the system and financially stable to begin with and 2) the outsiders, i.e. you're the opposite of the inbreds. Inbreds would say "work hard, do well on step 1 and get yourself into a nice cushy specialty." Outsiders have to worry about real life concerns while breaking into what is a sacred society of physicians.
I agree that this article should be taken with a grain of salt... I mean, he did mention that this is a 'gleefully biased rant'. I find a lot of what he says to actually be true, but doesn't mean that it applies to EVERYONE. Most of my med school friends that are about to graduate or are residents would for the most part agree that med school is NOT a good time. That doesn't mean we didn't make friends and go to a few crazy post-exam parties. Overall, you study a LOT and sacrifice a significant portion of your life to do what you do. I feel like med school SUCKED... but at the same time, there isn't anything else I could see myself doing for the rest of my life that would give me the fulfillment that being in medicine does.
I am an overworked, underpaid RN, not an overworked, underpaid MD. I am happy to read the comments from doctors who love their career choice. However, from the conversations I hear working alongside docs all day in the hospital, I would have to say that the author is mostly on target with respect to the feelings of most doctors. This article, in fact, was received as a Facebook post from one of those docs.
I learned from spending many years in a career that I did not enjoy, that loving one's work makes all the difference in the world. I love my nursing career, despite the low salary and hard work. I love putting smiles on the faces of my sick patients. I love those doctors who approach their work with similar enthusiasm. Those who are unhappy in medicine should seriously consider a career change. It worked for me!
Despite the rigors of medical school and residency I disagree with the author. Not every doctor hates clinical work and despises medicine. I am a primary care physician and I don't make a ton of money but I am in a profession where everyday I can make a difference. I married a classmate from Medical school and remain married after 20 years and have two amazing boys. Medical school and residency was full of challenges that one could never describe without going through the arduous process. During this time we did make a lot of personal sacrifices but along the way we met amazing people, experienced and achieved the unthinkable and have successful careers. While our finance friends are being laid off, moving their families around the country for better jobs, worrying about the stock market, we are financially secure and are proud of what we do. To all you young aspiring doctors, don't give up your dreams.
It's a great occupation for a passive-aggressive, pessimistic misanthrope, because if you think life basically sucks, and you don't really like people all that much, by prolonging their lives you're actually doing them a subtle disservice.
I can laugh and sympathize. I wrote a rant a few years ago - The Ugly Side of Being a Doctor. It struck a cord and still gets comments. Fortunately those moments don't last forever and eventually we can laugh at the absurdity. The article is pretty funny and while obviously not entirely true there are some grains of truth sandwiched in there. One thing I've learned along the way....it helps to laugh.
Treating brochitis with antibiotics before it becomes a pneumonia is a misconception. Bronchitis is most likely viral and therefore self limiting. Treating all bronchitis infections to prevent it from becoming a pneumonia will expose a lot of people to unnecessary antibiotics. If it becomes a pneumonia, then you treat it. - a pediatrician
You are dead on buddy.
very interesting read and i agree with almost all the points mentioned. Clearly, becoming a doctor is more like a brand-name 'prestigious' job with low to medium salary... unless you become a hotshot professor or Gregory House (i assume)...is it ok if i share this article on my company blog? we are manufacturers of surgical instruments and this is very fine light hearted reading. thanks
That's a cute and entertaining. As a finance guy I wonder if your rant would obtain the same sympathetic reaction if you read it to a room of financial advisors, lawyers or bankers. I'm guessing the audience would be more likely to chuckle while giving that knowing smile routine our parents used on us when we told them our 2nd grade math homework was the hardest thing in the world. My wife is a doctor and most of my clients are physicians so I have a decent understanding of the positives and hardships that come with a career in medicine, so being in a different industry with different pros/cons I can see that it's like comparing apples to oranges. While you see the only elements in a career as your schedule, stress level, and NOAPR's (number of attaboys per rotation), there are countless other elements that can be presented as a pro/con for any career.
Here's what my biased rant would look like to a sympathetic audience... "6 Reasons You Would Not Want To Be A Fin'l Advisor and 1.5 Reasons You Would"...
(1) You have to become an expert in a never-ending always-evolving field so you can sound like you halfway know what you're talking about because...
(2) unlike most professionals you have to go find clients before you begin to do your job
(3) you compete against slick snake oil salesmen whose presentations more closely resemble that of a carnie knowing that their financial knowledge is the equivalent of your dog Larry's knowledge of the Pythagorean Therorem.
(4) you could work 80 hr weeks, 365 days of the year and potential get paid nothing because your paycheck doesn't come in the form of a salary.
(5) underappreciated is a given knowing that you will always be working with people(doctors, lawyers, business owners) who think they know more about your job than you do. Just because you can make money doesn't mean you know the first thing about managing/safeguarding/growing it. I watch House and MASH re-runs religiously but I'm not stupid enough to think I can successfully perform Microfracture or Open Heart Surgery.
(6) getting started and surviving has more to do with luck than anything because unless you are given a big book of business or your daddy is an advisor about to retire, you might as well stock up on ramen noodles because your first 5-10 years are going to see your belt tightened...... And the biggest, most obvious reason you should become a financial advisor is
(1) the potential to earn big money... wait did I say "potential"??? Yes I sure did because only 1 in 5 advisors survive the first year and out of those that make it past the first year 1 in 4 will be making enough money to justify staying put in years 2-5 and not jumping ship to begin another career at an entry level position.
(.5) the half-pro is the flexible schedule, while it can nice to take off whenever you want you have to remember that paid time off and a paycheck waiting for you after your vacation is a figment of your imagination........
So you can see that anyone from a doctor to an advisor to a trashman to a banker will always have something "immensely unfair" to complain about. It seems to me like someone is just looking for their first pair of "Big Boy Pants". Hope you find them soon ;)
Im a resident from the philippines and i can't agree with you more. It's all so true!! The medical profession is something u should really really want or else you will not survive!
It takes a lot of courage, patience, discipline & a big heart to be a doctor...yes, it's true that we are sleep-deprived, residency means being an underpaid slave of the hospital & yes you may miss a lot of gatherings, not just that of your friends but even important family gatherings. But if all doctors would think the same way as you do, then who will treat the sick? Being a doctor is a noble profession. If you're into being famous, getting paid a lot & having fun all day & night, then you're not fit to be a doctor. It's just sad that you waste your time & your parent's money in becoming one & then not practicing it after. Think what you really want before going through it & then love what you chose.
My career required extensive preparation and deprivation but is not in medicine. Two sons are MD (one an OBGYN the other a General Surgeon).
My observation of their lives in medical school (in the 1980s), and to date, pretty well tracks this article. I note some responses from medical people who disagree with the article. It seems to me like they are in areas that are not particularly in the front lines of medicine, such as my sons above.
So long as politicians and the old media use medicine to serve their agendae, and so long as their political interference deals with only the demand for medical care and next to nothing that would fix the supply of medical care, the system will get worse.
We have the best medical care in the world in the USA. It is not what it was in some dimensions. With obamacare, it will depart further. Criswell predicts.
it is all true. I lost half of my friends, have bad eating and sleeping (even though as an oncologist I can postpone A LOT of things until tomorrow), my bodyshell is deteriorating, I had to let my other dreams go and I am to blame for everything that is bad in the healthcare system (Czech republic, Europe, a socialized version of health system, cheap for the user, at least on the first sight, and yet they complain). But on the other hand, I tried to quit, I found myself a nice administrative job starting at half past nine, with maybe half the hours, same wage, and 1% of responsibility, and got fed up with it in half a year. I really missed that non-financial reward that comes with it. Sometimes. Thank you for this article. I'm using it next time someone from outside medicine asks me things.
Gratefully, Peter Papp, MD, Prague, CZ, EU
Mostly true statements but argued heavily on the extreme end of the actual experience/sentiment. Meh on the writing style. OK for entertainment value and some insight into the medical education/training/practice (feels more like written by sleep-deprived intern, not yet a doc in practice with better sense of stewardship over his patients) but nothing groundbreaking.
This article couldn't be more dead on...I've experienced all 10 of the above given reasons during my training, and now that I'm done and practicing, I too often wish I could go back and change careers from the start. The cost of medical school is incredibly high, continues to increase, and the cost of training courses, certifications, board exams, etc. is something often not even mentioned. Sure I have a nice income if you're someone looking from the outside, but it ALL goes to trying to pay off the MASSIVE amount of debt accumulated during medical school and residency. The biggest lie ever told to me was..."You'll be making plenty, you'll be able to pay it all back in no time." Cost of medical training is increasing, debt among new graduates is ridiculous, and reimbursement with the new Obamacare is going nowhere but down. According to Mr. Obama, doctors are rich, they'll be fine. Let's give all of their money to the people who never put up half of the work and self-sacrafice and continue to do nothing. I would quit, but I'm too far in debt...
You not a colleague because you are NO physician. You only have an MD because you finished med school. D = MD??? I cannot believe you went to Harvard. Complete your training, practice in the real world, and STUFU you noob. Did you think training was going to be easy like everything else? Did you think that the money just comes flowing in? You have to earn it. People are chiming in because they are agreeing that life in residency sucks. BUT there is a light at the end of the tunnel. It's not for QUITTERS like you.
I have a great life in solo practice. I have lots of friends. I don't spend as much time with them now, because I have a family. I have weekends off and I work 8-5pm because I call the shots. I worked hard to get to where I am. If I want to take vacay, I take vacay. But more importantly, I make a difference. I'm doing what I was trained to do and the reward goes much more than monetary.
Being a physician takes a certain type of person as the road getting there is not easy. And you, Mr. Hypnotherapist should have considered the cost before starting the journey. What a waste!
This article is a real laugh... and really on target, but not for all. I am an Ob-gyn and I have gone through all the ten reasons listed by the author as to why one should not enter the medical profession. True as it may all be, my main reason for going into medicine stayed the same, even after the rigors of medschool, internship, and residency... which is, that this was exactly where i wanted to be, and what i wanted to do in the first place. Nothing ever worth having is easy... Anyway, for all those wanting to be doctors, just a piece of advice... you have to love what you do in order to see the beauty and joy past all the hardships. PEACE people!!! :)
Funny, all your points are dead one correct. And, I've felt the pain of each of these stresses.
But, for all the ups and downs it still is one heck of a journey and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
Im almost done with a surgical residency, and I must say I respectfully DISAGREE with you on almost every point you made above. I still have time for girlfriends, still make time to go out, catch up with old friends outside of medicine, I just went to my 10 year high school reunion and barely anyone had cooler stories to share than mine, job offers are coming in the mail for $300k+ starting salaries, I love taking care of patients, and have a pretty good routine in seeing them all in an efficient and fulfilling manner. I LOVE what I do, and would not change a thing. The lawyers, I-bankers, real estate brokers may have more free time, but they are BORED to death, just making rich people richer.
I can see how anyone coming out of UCSD Med would have such a cynical view of medicine. The med students there were so overworked and depressed. You should have gone to USC med. ;) Good luck to you.
If it were easy, everyone would be doing it. Suck it up and go do that rectal exam already.
It's really true with what the author is saying , but I disagree to some of his opinion. Medicne is a very fulfilling vocation. Medicine is really a very difficult path to your success but if you put your heart into it, the hardships that you encounter is nothing if you see you heal people, put smile on their faces and make them happy when they get treated and healed from their ailments. It's not about all the money, remember the Hippocratic Oath? I enjoy being an MD and be part of people's lives and it's about healing and you will have your rewards in heaven.
Stop whining. Pathetic.
U just couldn't hack it chump . Being a doctor is not for the weak.i made I through residency have beautiful family and enjoy my life everyday. Yeah it's stressful at times but I can handle it. Obviously you thought it was gonnabe easy bc your intelligent. It takes a lot more to be a physician . I see it everyday with whiney interns/residents that loved the idea of becoming a doctor but have no idea what being a doctor really is. People with your attitude give all doctors a bad name..what a loser
I wish the never let you into medical school.
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I notice that those disagreeing with the author are mostly not MDs, or MDs who are relatively far out of training into established careers. Sure, med school and residency may skew one's perspective. I'm certainly more bitter after a long night of answering pages and running around like a headless chicken for many a thankless patient.
But respectfully, have you people, especially older docs, noticed the landscape recently? In my four years of recent med school, tuition climbed 10%. My spouse, who graduated just two years before I did, paid less for schooling and took out loans at an average 2-3%, while mine average 6-8%. The economy has tanked, so as I approach the end of residency, jobs are scarce (not everybody has the luxury of picking up and moving willy-nilly to accept job offers), and all the older-generation docs who enjoyed the golden years of medicine and helped destroy the profession's economic structure through complacency, ignorance, greed, or too-busy-to-do-anything-about-it attitudes, are not retiring, especially since their retirement portfolios came crashing down a few years ago.
The downside of medicine is still there. The rewards are decreasing significantly, even in the past 2-3 years. (Yes, even personal satisfaction and the patient-doctor connection, as the relationship between healthcare consumers and providers becomes more commoditized AND adversarial). I'm glad you enjoy your job and sacrifices. I usually do too. But try not to be so preachy, please. It may not be so bad as all that, but for many in training now, it certainly can feel that way at times. Even my younger attendings a few years out of training tell us they feel bad for my generation of docs.
Quite a perspective Dr Ali but really at the end of the day, when you truly look inward, one life, just "one" life helped & impacted for the better, I WILL do it, all over again, a doctor!
I'm happy to have stumbled across both this discussion and this site. It's no great leap to see that while your MD or DO is very valuable, it is still just a degree. What you decide to do with it and how you wish to live your life, both professionally and personally, are deeply personal choices.
If you've spoken to older docs - and who hasn't - you'd be a fool not to recognize that many of them are deeply unhappy with their perception of their lifestyle.
I look forward to learning more about how to leverage my future MD and what kind of career paths are now open to me... even if I decide not to take them.
I agree with uncommon. The landscape has changed - and for the worse. New doctors get it pretty bad.
The golden age of being a doctor is over.
I'm gonna ask my kid to be a dentist. HAHAHA
1) no i won't because i put effort into keeping ties with my friends, even if it means speaking to them once or twice a month or making sure i throw a party when i get some time off to get all my friends together and reminisce. in fact, i believe keeping these friendships supersedes my need to get an extra bit of sleep. after all, you can sleep when you're dead.
2) maybe i wont be able to hold a single relationship for a while, but being a doctor (with a good personality of course) is attractive to many people of the opposite sex so i doubt there will be a lack of chances for intimacy...and anyways, these days people are living 10-20 year longer, so i can afford to wait to get married until im settled down
3) id rather spend the best years of my life as an underpaid slave learning how to and saving lives than an overpaid anything. not to mention i have made sure that, at 24, i have had quite a lot of fun and enjoyed myself. i can sacrifice a few years so that i can have a recession proof job and stability for the rest of my life
4) i will get paid a lot of money because im smart and motivated to do so. not only will i get paid well, but i will be doing something i love and noble while doing so. 250 - 300 k a year you get paid in canada is fine by me.
5) well this one i can't really argue with...so hopefully i dont make to many big mistakes.
6) can't argue with that either...but i knew that when i signed up to be a doctor
7) a good doctor finds a way to make time
8) yeap, but then you save a life and that person looks at you in the eyes and says thank you doctor, and you remember that being a doctor is the best job in the world.
9) who cares? life isnt a popularity contest. and i have yet to come across someone who gives me a negative reaction when i say im in medical school. in fact, if you spend time explaining to your patients your treatment strategy and make sure they understand their own medical problems while giving them a chance to ask any questions they may have, chances are they will appreciate your openess and the fact that they are involved in their own treatment. this is called building a doctor-patient relationship.
10) health choices are in the hands of the patient. the term "doctor" comes from the latin "docere" meaning "to teach". i will do my best to teach my patients best health practices, its up to them to learn and apply. for those once in a while cases where a patient comes by and i catch some acutely dangerous illness and save their lives, well then i think that counts as helping someone. even if it happens once a week, or a month.
i guess all a A.B. magna cum laude from Harvard College and a MD from the University of California San Diego School of Medicine gets you is a pessimistic outlook on the medical profession and a blog
-Doctor in training and damn proud of it
God has chosen "us" (MD's) for a special mission...being a doctor means going out and touching lives. A profession so noble that only a few were given this kind of opportunity. The reward is far greater than monetary fulfillment..u'll earn your points in heaven because of your enormous sacrifices!!! I'm so blessed to be a doctor!
I love my job. The joy of handling succesful pregnancies is fulfilling. The only thing i hate is when babies decided to be distress at my few hours of sleep time left for that night. Cant the babies be more considerate? Sigh. If caesars can be postponed till next morning. I do wonder how my patients feel when their surgeon enters the OT with red eyes and cant stop yawning.
What a pity to you for feeling that way.I believe being a doctor is not just a profession but a calling. If you have that calling, then you practice your profession so fulfilling naturally. You are so shallow ,,,you need more wisdom as what we happy doctors have :)
Wow, you are definitely a "glass is half empty" kind of guy. I am happily married to my high school sweetheart and have been with him through college, medical school, surgery residency, and a fellowship. Of course, we would have loved to have had more time together over the years, but we have a wonderful family and life together. And because he went through what he did and helped all the people he has over the years, the world is a better place. This was his destiny. God chooses very special people to be physicians and unfortunately, you were not one of those people. And as far as your theory on failed marriages goes, only one of my husband's nine partners is divorced. Anyone that divorces their spouse simply because their personal needs aren't being met is a pretty shallow person. When you get married you agree to become a team and both work and make sacrifices to make that team a success. And even if you only get to spend a few hours a week with your significant other during residency, he/she is the only one you want to spend those few hours with. I hope you find true happiness in your life and a way to make a positive impact on the world. Obviously, you were not meant to do it through medicine.
So sad but entirely true. One thing you forgot to mention us how everyone in the world thinks 'doctors make too much money' but no one has any clue as to the heartache and sacrifice it took to make it. Most physicians never make more than $100,000 and struggle with day to day living like everyone else but most people don't know that either.
Sounds like you're just mad because you suck at it.
There's no crying in medicine. Stop discouraging people with your rant. I love my job and I am on 30 hour call today and I am NOT complaining about it. You should have researched what you were getting into. Medicine requires strong people that can organize their life and give things priorities. I am a PGY4 and have a great life and couldn't imagine doing anything else. Who wants to retire and sit around doing nothing all day?